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Value of "Example Cards"

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Mahjai

Boston

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8:45 am November 10, 2010

Was wondering if there has been any discussion on having extensive "examples" for "Shock:Human Contact" (HC ?).  One of the struggles in sharing the original Shock game w/ others was difficulty in 'getting-started' for the less-creative players (or at least those whose confidence in their creativity is diminished, particularly on a Mon. night after a long day).  Like many narrative games, it seems that having viable samples to choose from to get things rolling in HC could really help.  For years, i've had stacks of index cards with archetypes for character backgrounds, overall psychology, internal-struggles, quirky-traits, backstory events, etc. to help kickstart players into likeable/gameplay-appealing choices.  Having a standard format ( a set of initially agreed-upon categories…an ontology of HC if you will) might help exchange between the community?

In the case of HC, perhaps this could really help widen the audience base?

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joshua

posts 217

1:05 pm November 10, 2010

Hm. I seem to have lost a post on my own forum.

There are a couple of facilities for this in Human Contact. The first is the setting material, which will make up the bulk of the book. The setting is designed to pose questions and give tools for answering them, while acting as a set of creative constraints.

But I appreciate that not everyone will read the whole book. That's why I'm publishing a set of 8-page booklets, sold in packs of four, to distribute to players. They'll contain enough to get the gist of the stuff that will be fun to play, giving ideas for who to be and what to do. It will also be a free PDF.

I like your card idea. Can you give me some examples?

Joshua A.C. Newman

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Mahjai

Boston

posts 6

1:31 pm November 10, 2010

An example of an "example-card" for the backstory category might be 

"{} Description: farm boy on desert planet, feels like life is going nowhere, 

{} Struggles: autonomy/sense-of-purpose, uncomfortable with sophisticated cultures

{} Quirks: prone to impulsive decisions, distracted if not center of attention

 

The idea seed, taken above from the annoyances of a Luke Skywalker template, isn't a good one as its too specific, (but i'm workin, so can't put crazy thought/time in right now =)

 

i really like your idea of "booklet-packs" that will give those ideas.  Again, its not that gamers or non-gamers-being-introduced can't all be creative, but that situations-of-the-play-session and personal-ego/confidence may inhibit the creative flow.  Drawing on archetypes/templates, particularly those from commonly known or personally beloved precedents, seems to help the construction of a narrative.  i wonder if its related to how folks build easily w/ Legos or other highly-constrained building toys…as if the constraints limit the possible choices and make it easier to get started ( instead of picking a color as a percent Red/Green/Blue, pick from the Rainbow's 7 or Crayola 64, etc. )

Am very interested to see what you do w/ Human Contact.  I really dug Shock (bought it for folks who will probably never get to play or choose to play, but wanted them to read the ideas in it…especially Praxis & Ngonists ).  I really think you've helped the 'story-centered' cluster of our community to think with new tools.

It'd be cool to distill speculative-fiction narratives into a DNA of possibilities….at least to begin doing that for character motivations/psychology…beyond the traditional neurosis/psychosis, D&D Alignment, or World of Darkness/Pendragon 7 Deadly-Sins/ Virtue/Vices…

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joshua

posts 217

1:40 pm November 10, 2010

Yeah,I'm not much of a dualist, as you can probably guess. Cyberpunk's "ME GO TO FAR! ME AM PLAY GODS!" morality is about as antimodern as you can get, and while duality is interesting in terms of Arthur, what makes the cycle interesting to me is the haziness of Lancelot/Gwenever/Arthur or Arthur/Morgan/Mordred — that is, everyone's kinda got a point.

For that reason, I'm hesitant to use archetypes at all in Human Contact. It's too important that everyone be a complex person. That said, giving players a bunch of Legos to build a character of is a good idea. I'm giving a lot of examples in the text for that reason.

Joshua A.C. Newman

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Mahjai

Boston

posts 6

2:13 pm November 10, 2010

Post edited 2:14 pm – November 10, 2010 by Mahjai


Well said man…am much agreed w/ the disinterest/implausibility of Dualism.  And, if i'm reading you right, i definitely concur on the implied dangers/cardboard-sterility of selecting 'archetypes'.  The examples to populate categories-of-interest are merely those building-blocks to get folks rolling and provide a 'kickstart' when needed—

Love the 'ME GO TO FAR' caveman strips…and the Biodiversity one on Dresden Codak even more::  Irony is good feature to encourage/reward/indentify in games as well…not enforce unnaturally, but to detect narrative-flow/event-structure opportunities for it-

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joshua

posts 217

9:57 am November 11, 2010

Yeah, Shock: in general is an engine of irony, because opposing parties often achieve what they want.

What's that? I was wrong! It was Earth all a-long!

Joshua A.C. Newman

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Mahjai

Boston

posts 6

11:49 am November 15, 2010

Evil Ironic Apes-

 

Felt it unecessary to create a new topic, but was wondering what those who've readin this think about a standardized Event Log to ease the recording of adventures for later community sharing?   (resulting in a nice database of past events).  

Something that has been great with the original Shock was how folks shared their sessions and for the most part it was easy to follow, but it could be great with a singular format to read each (perhaps a digital upload to have web browseable records?…i think some folks might read more about other's sessions than they do spending time playing…and it might fuel everyone's gameplay to a higher level in studying or being inspired by others?)

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joshua

posts 217

12:01 am November 16, 2010

Dude, we've got a thread about a wiki going! It so happens, I'm logging in right now to read what I said, cuz if anyone knows what I said, it was me. Or at least a database record of me.

Joshua A.C. Newman


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